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Well, David himself calls the band a heavy metal band though he admits their sound is probably more classifiable as hard rock these days. Remember, "heavy metal" used to be not-screaming music. Black metal and Death metal are the terms most often used to identify the screaming metal.
My point exactly; metal doesn't mean screaming, just listen to, well for example Metallica (and James Hetfield is on that list), Sentenced, Hammerfall, Blind Guardian etc. They're all metal bands and their singers don't scream. Even less than David does, to be honest. (I like it when they scream though. And out of context, that sentence must've sounded hella creepy.) Disturbed are Alternative Metal for me, period. They're definitely not Heavy Metal, that sounds entirely different, but they are metal. They're too heavy for Hard Rock imho. |
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Ah, see, I don't really make a distinction between "metal" and "heavy metal" because what I grew up on (Def Leppard, Aerosmith, AC/DC, Guns N Roses) was called Heavy Metal back then and it's only in the last 10 years that I've heard it being broken down into Hair Metal and Glam Metal and Power Metal and whatever else it's called these days. To me, it's all Heavy Metal and from there gets broken down.
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Yeah, I agree it actually irritates me when someone says that Disturbed is heavy metal. That is one of the reasons why I love Disturbed so much because you can understand what he is saying!! I know what you mean. David should be in there. I've the D a number of times live, and that guy KNOWS how to work a crowd, sometimes without even looking at them. |
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2009, 08:12:18 AM » |
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Have you seen Howard Jones from KSE? He just walks on stage and doesn't have to do much, and the crowd is pumped.
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2009, 08:16:32 AM » |
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Well, David himself calls the band a heavy metal band though he admits their sound is probably more classifiable as hard rock these days. Remember, "heavy metal" used to be not-screaming music. Black metal and Death metal are the terms most often used to identify the screaming metal.
Just saw this now. You are completely right. If Disturbed came out in the 50's or 60's they would have been the heaviest thing around. Who knows, maybe in 20-30 years Cannibal Corpse and brutal death metal acts will be classified as mallcore. |
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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2009, 11:03:49 AM » |
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Have you seen Howard Jones from KSE? He just walks on stage and doesn't have to do much, and the crowd is pumped That's because his whole crowd are drunk 15 year old girls.  Just saw this now. You are completely right. If Disturbed came out in the 50's or 60's they would have been the heaviest thing around Absolutely. To some of my friends a five second clip of any Disturbed song will be dubbed 'metal' immedialtely. But theyre dumb. To me the whole dreaded nu-metal word that was created never meant anything to me, as far as I was concerned I classed that whole thing as 'Hard Rock' (Disturbed, Drowning Pool etc). And you obviously had your metal such as Slipknot, Head Charge etc. But to say David shouldn't be in it becauase they can't be classed as 'metal' anymore doesn't make sense, to me I wouldn't class Maiden Metal. |
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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2009, 11:12:37 AM » |
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Have you seen Howard Jones from KSE? He just walks on stage and doesn't have to do much, and the crowd is pumped That's because his whole crowd are drunk 15 year old girls. Just saw this now. You are completely right. If Disturbed came out in the 50's or 60's they would have been the heaviest thing around Absolutely. To some of my friends a five second clip of any Disturbed song will be dubbed 'metal' immedialtely. But theyre dumb. To me the whole dreaded nu-metal word that was created never meant anything to me, as far as I was concerned I classed that whole thing as 'Hard Rock' (Disturbed, Drowning Pool etc). And you obviously had your metal such as Slipknot, Head Charge etc. But to say David shouldn't be in it becauase they can't be classed as 'metal' anymore doesn't make sense, to me I wouldn't class Maiden Metal. KsE really doesn't have that different of a crowd from Disturbed, sorry to disappoint. (Not a KsE fan myself, though) Wouldn't classify Maiden as metal??? interesting, yet Slipknot is? Slipknot is much more -core than pure metal. And AHC is some kind of hard rock. Not a bad band, though. |
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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2009, 11:43:05 AM » |
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Wouldn't classify Maiden as metal??? interesting, yet Slipknot is? Slipknot is much more -core than pure metal. And AHC is some kind of hard rock. Not a bad band, though Like in the discussion, certainly not nowadays(Maiden). |
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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2009, 12:12:40 PM » |
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I agree on that. Definitely hard rock, but was metal back then.
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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2009, 03:05:28 PM » |
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Maiden is metal no matter when you classify them. It's not how "hard" something is that makes it metal. The dissonant riffs, emphasis on more technical guitar rather than just chords, etc., etc. differentiate it from anything out of today's nu-metal/hard rock craze.
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« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2009, 01:45:54 AM » |
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01. Bruce Dickinson (IRON MAIDEN, BRUCE DICKINSON)
06. Mike Patton (FAITH NO MORE, MR. BUNGLE, FANTOMAS, TOMAHAWK, PEEPING TOM...)
17. Corey Taylor (SLIPKNOT, STONE SOUR)
23. Jonathan Davis (KORN, JONATHAN DAVIS)
Only ones on this list that I would place on such a list, though their order (just for these) would be Patton, Dickinson, Davis, Taylor. 01. Bruce Dickinson (IRON MAIDEN, BRUCE DICKINSON)
06. Mike Patton (FAITH NO MORE, MR. BUNGLE, FANTOMAS, TOMAHAWK, PEEPING TOM...)
17. Corey Taylor (SLIPKNOT, STONE SOUR)
23. Jonathan Davis (KORN, JONATHAN DAVIS)
Only ones on this list that I would place on such a list, though their order (just for these) would be Patton, Dickinson, Davis, Taylor. EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!! except for me it'd be more like 1.davis 2.dickinson 3.taylor 4.patton |
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